Comments on: On the origin of the Punjabi Khatris http://rajeshkochhar.com/2009/05/on-the-origin-of-the-punjabi-khatris/ CV, career profile, printed articles,lecture texts, blogs, etc. Sat, 19 May 2012 11:43:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: KJS Chatrath http://rajeshkochhar.com/2009/05/on-the-origin-of-the-punjabi-khatris/#comment-114 KJS Chatrath Fri, 27 Jan 2012 04:28:23 +0000 http://rajeshkochhar.com/?p=105#comment-114 I have read many of your articles but have just found this one which I would be going through today. At this stage let me only say, Thank you Sir, India is proud to have a scholar-scientist like you. I have read many of your articles but have just found this one which I would be going through today.

At this stage let me only say, Thank you Sir, India is proud to have a scholar-scientist like you.

]]> By: Jagdev Rai Sood http://rajeshkochhar.com/2009/05/on-the-origin-of-the-punjabi-khatris/#comment-113 Jagdev Rai Sood Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:03:04 +0000 http://rajeshkochhar.com/?p=105#comment-113 sir, go to sood sabha chandigarh.com sir, go to sood sabha chandigarh.com

]]> By: Sanjay Bavdekar http://rajeshkochhar.com/2009/05/on-the-origin-of-the-punjabi-khatris/#comment-110 Sanjay Bavdekar Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:58:30 +0000 http://rajeshkochhar.com/?p=105#comment-110 Dear Sir, brilliant analysis. At last a sane voice rising above political correctness.I will like to give you my own personal observations. Noting at physical features an complexion I have always felt Punjabis as a whole look closer to Arabs. Now I understand Jats of Punjab look closer to Arabs.Khatris do indeed look a lot like Greeks.While other Punjabis look a lot Indian.But as someone has pointed out Brahmins all over India also stand out from the overwhelming majority of Indians.An as you will expect from a much older community they look a lot mixed( darker) than the average Jat or Khatri. But I will add while Khatris and Jats look to have come from the west,perhaps 10% or so Brahmins retain considerable European features. I am amazed how many dark haired Russians from the south of that country resemble so much to Brahmins. Just as pre politically adjusted history will tell you.Particularly notice the high forehead as opposed to the Mediterranean forehead of the upper class Khatri.Really if you approach things from a common sensical perspective how easy it all becomes. I too have noted the different ness of Punjabis from the rest of India. They culturally are closer to Pakistanis and MID easterners. Perhaps that i the reason they take up western culture so easily as traditional bahmin culture was never too strong on them. I am myself a Maharahtrian Brahmin. You might be aware we are the most European looking Brahmin community in India. It will be interesting to o some DNA sampling on Maharashtrian Brahmins as well. Anyway I will like to add off topic India is so diverse but it's soul seems to reside on the ghats of the Ganges. This coming from a Maharashtrian Brahmin but I think it's true. anyway. Dear Sir, brilliant analysis. At last a sane voice rising above political correctness.I will like to give you my own personal observations.
Noting at physical features an complexion I have always felt Punjabis as a whole look closer to Arabs. Now I understand Jats of Punjab look closer to Arabs.Khatris do indeed look a lot like Greeks.While other Punjabis look a lot Indian.But as someone has pointed out Brahmins all over India also stand out from the overwhelming majority of Indians.An as you will expect from a much older community they look a lot mixed( darker) than the average Jat or Khatri. But I will add while Khatris and Jats look to have come from the west,perhaps 10% or so Brahmins retain considerable European features. I am amazed how many dark haired Russians from the south of that country resemble so much to Brahmins. Just as pre politically adjusted history will tell you.Particularly notice the high forehead as opposed to the Mediterranean forehead of the upper class Khatri.Really if you approach things from a common sensical perspective how easy it all becomes. I too have noted the different ness of Punjabis from the rest of India. They culturally are closer to Pakistanis and MID easterners. Perhaps that i the reason they take up western culture so easily as traditional bahmin culture was never too strong on them. I am myself a Maharahtrian Brahmin. You might be aware we are the most European looking Brahmin community in India. It will be interesting to o some DNA sampling on Maharashtrian Brahmins as well. Anyway I will like to add off topic India is so diverse but it’s soul seems to reside on the ghats of the Ganges. This coming from a Maharashtrian Brahmin but I think it’s true. anyway.

]]> By: Ashwani Kumar Gulla http://rajeshkochhar.com/2009/05/on-the-origin-of-the-punjabi-khatris/#comment-103 Ashwani Kumar Gulla Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:59:45 +0000 http://rajeshkochhar.com/?p=105#comment-103 Dear Mr. Kochhar, Your study on Khatri Gives ample opportunity to understand some context of origin of words. Being a student of Ancient History, spritualism, anthropology and sociology the research work done on some very important management areas, undoubtedly your simple messages on concepts have given inner concsciousness to the readers. To understand word "Khatri" I tell you the words of my ancestors - " We hold the sword in hands and it would be better to die than holding a tarazu (tarakrhi) in hands". Secondly, "Paisa te Kanjaran kol vi honda hai, Izzar jyada zaruri hai, Paisa hi jyada zaruri hove te log Kanjaran naal rishte kar lain". I think being punjabi Khatri, everybody could understand what a KHATRI means. My ancestors assumed Khatri far higher than Rajputs etc. They were absolutely Khatriya. I could not understand why the people are giving more importance to word "Kshatriya" than "Khatri". My ancestors were very literate and rulers of "Shah" of Punjab of their time were more eager to call themselve Khatri than word 'Kshatriya'. They always explained that 'Kshatriya' and "Khatri" is synonymous. I have alot to add in your write-up and very interesting knowledge about Khatris since mythological Ramayana,Purana period/Mahabaharata time and more..... Best of luck to all of the reader ! With lots of regards. Ashwani kumar Gulla Dear Mr. Kochhar,
Your study on Khatri Gives ample opportunity to understand some context of origin of words. Being a student of Ancient History, spritualism, anthropology and sociology the research work done on some very important management areas, undoubtedly your simple messages on concepts have given inner concsciousness to the readers. To understand word “Khatri” I tell you the words of my ancestors - ” We hold the sword in hands and it would be better to die than holding a tarazu (tarakrhi) in hands”. Secondly, “Paisa te Kanjaran kol vi honda hai, Izzar jyada zaruri hai, Paisa hi jyada zaruri hove te log Kanjaran naal rishte kar lain”. I think being punjabi Khatri, everybody could understand what a KHATRI means. My ancestors assumed Khatri far higher than Rajputs etc. They were absolutely Khatriya. I could not understand why the people are giving more importance to word “Kshatriya” than “Khatri”. My ancestors were very literate and rulers of “Shah” of Punjab of their time were more eager to call themselve Khatri than word ‘Kshatriya’. They always explained that ‘Kshatriya’ and “Khatri” is synonymous. I have alot to add in your write-up and very interesting knowledge about Khatris since mythological Ramayana,Purana period/Mahabaharata time and more….. Best of luck to all of the reader !

With lots of regards.
Ashwani kumar Gulla

]]> By: Ramesh Chander http://rajeshkochhar.com/2009/05/on-the-origin-of-the-punjabi-khatris/#comment-77 Ramesh Chander Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:38:30 +0000 http://rajeshkochhar.com/?p=105#comment-77 Dear Dr Kochhar Truely a facinating and scholarly piece of work. Congratulations! I agree that DNA based research offers opportunties to test out your thesis. It may interest you to know that the National Geographic is currently doing a large scale study thru its Genographic Project. Although the sample it will draw may largely be of residents of North America, it may attract others. Please see the link - nationalgeographic.com/genographic It provides extensive info on the nature of the study. I would be interested in further work that you are likely to undertake in relation to the Soods. Dear Dr Kochhar

Truely a facinating and scholarly piece of work. Congratulations! I agree that DNA based research offers opportunties to test out your thesis.
It may interest you to know that the National Geographic is currently doing a large scale study thru its Genographic Project. Although the sample it will draw may largely be of residents of North America, it may attract others. Please see the link - nationalgeographic.com/genographic

It provides extensive info on the nature of the study.

I would be interested in further work that you are likely to undertake in relation to the Soods.

]]> By: admin http://rajeshkochhar.com/2009/05/on-the-origin-of-the-punjabi-khatris/#comment-75 admin Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:25:10 +0000 http://rajeshkochhar.com/?p=105#comment-75 Dear Prof. Sinha-Thanks for your letter. I have suggested that DNA fingerprinting can resolve many issues in Indian social anthropology (as well as ancient history). Caste system is a valuable genetic lab. If we choose our samples carefully and carry out our research in a detached manner, valuable insights, and valuable scientific results, can emerge. But geneticists with a well-equipped .lab will have to come forward.I would like to suggest this to biologists stationed abroad. Of course they will require help from social scientists in formulating the problem. I am sure genetic comparison of Punjabi Khatris and Himachal Soods will be very rewarding. Similarly it will be interesting to see how closely Parsis, Kashmiri Pandits and Pushtoon s or Balochs are related. Any takers? Dear Prof. Sinha-Thanks for your letter. I have suggested that DNA fingerprinting can resolve many issues in Indian social anthropology (as well as ancient history). Caste system is a valuable genetic lab. If we choose our samples carefully and carry out our research in a detached manner, valuable insights, and valuable scientific results, can emerge. But geneticists with a well-equipped .lab will have to come forward.I would like to suggest this to biologists stationed abroad. Of course they will require help from social scientists in formulating the problem. I am sure genetic comparison of Punjabi Khatris and Himachal Soods will be very rewarding. Similarly it will be interesting to see how closely Parsis, Kashmiri Pandits and Pushtoon s or Balochs are related. Any takers?

]]> By: arun p sinha http://rajeshkochhar.com/2009/05/on-the-origin-of-the-punjabi-khatris/#comment-74 arun p sinha Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:27:59 +0000 http://rajeshkochhar.com/?p=105#comment-74 Dear Dr. Kochhar, You have interesting insights on Khatris. I would keenly look forward to DNA result, and it would be great if I am included in a mailing list for alerts when your conclusions are out. PS: I am sure you would control for the possibility that the graeco-persian connection may be intrinsic to the brahminical stream as a whole, such as is evident in the pan-indian preferences of feature and complexion. Best. Arun P Sinha Professor of Strategy IIT Kanpur Dear Dr. Kochhar,
You have interesting insights on Khatris. I would keenly look forward to DNA result, and it would be great if I am included in a mailing list for alerts when your conclusions are out.
PS: I am sure you would control for the possibility that the graeco-persian connection may be intrinsic to the brahminical stream as a whole, such as is evident in the pan-indian preferences of feature and complexion.
Best.
Arun P Sinha
Professor of Strategy
IIT Kanpur

]]> By: Kapil Dev Saggi http://rajeshkochhar.com/2009/05/on-the-origin-of-the-punjabi-khatris/#comment-50 Kapil Dev Saggi Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:07:12 +0000 http://rajeshkochhar.com/?p=105#comment-50 Thanks for this great information, I am also a Punjabi Khatri and want to know more about my origin... Thanks for this great information, I am also a Punjabi Khatri and want to know more about my origin…

]]> By: Rajeev Puri. http://rajeshkochhar.com/2009/05/on-the-origin-of-the-punjabi-khatris/#comment-45 Rajeev Puri. Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:53:30 +0000 http://rajeshkochhar.com/?p=105#comment-45 Dear Rajeshji, Spectacular work-hats off. I have got the answer to the spectacular success of Khatris in Bollywood, which has an overwhelming presence of Khatris. The impressive personalities and European looks of Khatris have stood out always. The martial approach to all aspects of life is evident as Khatris excel in business, defence, corporates, films,research, etc-the result of forays in all fields being success. Regards-pl carry on the good work. Dear Rajeshji,
Spectacular work-hats off.
I have got the answer to the spectacular success of Khatris in Bollywood, which has an overwhelming presence of Khatris.
The impressive personalities and European looks of Khatris have stood out always.
The martial approach to all aspects of life is evident as Khatris excel in business, defence, corporates, films,research, etc-the result of forays in all fields being success.
Regards-pl carry on the good work.

]]> By: Jatin Kapoor http://rajeshkochhar.com/2009/05/on-the-origin-of-the-punjabi-khatris/#comment-42 Jatin Kapoor Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:03:49 +0000 http://rajeshkochhar.com/?p=105#comment-42 Can you please let me know some similarity between punjabi Khatri (Kapoor) and Rajput's (Dhakarey). I wanted to know couple positive points between them if possible... Please help!!! Can you please let me know some similarity between punjabi Khatri (Kapoor) and Rajput’s (Dhakarey). I wanted to know couple positive points between them if possible… Please help!!!

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